ADNAN OKTAR: I have some acquaintances from Israel. They are Rabbis, they are the Children of Israel. They have sent me a message over the internet. They say that they would like to come visit me and they want me to help them. They say; “It appears as if Turkey and Israel are falling apart. We are in grief, in discomfort about that.”
For one thing they should keep their hearts at ease, it is not possible for them to fall apart from Turkey. Turkey is a very good-willed, lucid state. It is a steady, mature state. Consequently Turkey is not a state that would change its general perspective because of some minor incidents or of anything else, even major ones for that matter. Israel will always be our friend, our brother. We would always look after them. It is of course not possible for us to let anyone oppress the descendants of Prophet Abraham (as). We would of course not let anyone oppress the children of the prophets.
We had proved that in the past. We have taken them from Spain and brought them to Istanbul on ships. We provided them the means to live the best life possible. We have proved that in every condition, at all times. There shouldn’t be any misunderstandings. For instance, I guess in that movie a child was shot by the Israeli soldiers. Now that does not mean, Israel always slays children like this, it doesn’t mean that Israel martyrs children all the time. It is not in that sense. This is a symbolical expression. That is to say Israel should be careful. Israel should take pains, not to hurt children, women and elderly in such operations, Israel should avoid such things. Self defense can be done only as much as necessary. That is to say, extremes should be avoided. That movie is a sign of for this, it is a warning for everyone. That is a warning for Turkey, a warning for America, a warning for France, it is a warning for everyone. Everyone should be very careful on that point. Whilst executing an operation, it is of top importance to avoid any kind of hurt on the civilian population, on children, on women, on young girls, to protect them all very diligently and only to target the aggressor, if there is one. And the aim is to arrest him alive if at all possible. But Allah forbid, if they are left in a helpless position due to necessity, then that is a different situation. But apart from that, it was only a film calling the parties to take pains over this point. There is no need for them to be uncomfortable because of this.
It doesn’t mean Israel equals to a nation that martyrs children. They are all very devout people, most of them are very devout. They are very dear to us, they are our brothers. Torah talks about and demands love, peace and brotherhood. They should all be comfortable in that respect. They have been very troubled about this, they feel uncomfortable. They wanted to come here. We can of course organise a press meeting. They can give press statements too if necessary. But they should all feel very complacent. Our government is very conscientious. The AKP government is very compassionate, kind..
PRESENTER: After this exercise incident the situation was a bit tense and on top of that, this film issue had come up and caused a real problem there I guess.
ADNAN OKTAR: Actually, they have been left in an embarrassing position with the exercise being canceled at the last moment. First you invite them, “inviting someone” that is how it is perceived of course. It was perceived as if it were something similar to inviting someone to dinner and then telling them not to come on the last day and invite some others instead. However it is not a dinner organization, it is a military exercise. In such an exercise all the participating parties do it for defense purposes. But in Israel, cleansing majority of them of this, there are atheistic Zionists among them and there are some cruel people among them. These people are capable of killing children and the elderly, they are capable of giving out such orders. Which Israeli citizen would ever want something like that? If there is anyone who could say, they do want the children to be killed, they should step forward. And when we say that it is the atheistic Zionists who are doing this, they take it as if we mean that a similar grave result is waiting the atheistic Zionists. That is also a point what I really do want to explain. We only want to remove the effect of the atheistic Zionists. That is to say to remove the harm that they have been giving. Or else they are free to live as ever they like, may Allah give them long life. That is not our point. They can talk about their ideas freely as well. But not the cruelty, we would not let cruelty.
I mean if in our land, the soldiers are taught how to throw bombs and then go and throw them over children, then that makes Turkey responsible just as well. I mean to give a gun to a person and tell him to go shoot the other and to train a person and send him there is the same, isn’t it? It comes to the same point. That is to say; the attitude Turkey had adopted is natural but we of course cleanse the Israeli army, Israeli soldiers of this. I mean they are devout, very decent people but we of course curse the persecutors. Whoever it is that does this. We curse the one whoever does this. As a matter of fact, sometimes our police officers organize operations for instance. Sometimes people get injured, they got shot then everyone reacts and protests and asks the account of it. What is wrong with that? There is nothing to be offended here. There is nothing to be agitated. That is a warning for everyone.
Consequently that is not a warning that targets the whole of the Israeli army. I mean the cancellation of the military exercise. But may be that could have been prevented earlier. That could have been notified earlier. Then they would not be as offended as they are now. However, to say the truth it was possible to develop an attitude that might clear away their being offended. Of course our authorities know that very well too, but it appears to me that it would have been better to give a statement that would atone the situation, a statement that would save their faces in the public opinion. I am telling that because that wasn’t done to offend Israel. That is done to the advantage of the humanity. That is done in the name of fairness.
Ultimately we do not want Israel to be persecuted but we do not want Palestine to be persecuted either. We do not want anyone to be persecuted. For instance we do not accept the suicide bombers in Israel. They enter a house celebrating a wedding and explode the bomb there, all the children, kids are wailing. That is a grave cruelty, I mean I do not want that to happen. But I do not want the Palestinian children to be martyred either. It is not strange to adopt an attitude against this.
Our Rabbi friends were very agitated, a bit nervous, for that reason I have sent a message that would calm them. I mean I’ve told them that there is no reason to be nervous. I believe tomorrow or the day after Rabbi Froman will come here insha’Allah, he says he wants the other Rabbis to come as well. I said come in, come be our guests. Insha’Allah that would be great.
It is mentioned in the Torah the Children of Israel get very easily suspicious, I mean they are very shy in nature. That is what writes in the Torah about them. Torah states; “You get suspicious over everything”. “You get troubled from everything.” They have such a connate uneasiness. But there is nothing wrong, why would something like that happen? First of all they are the descendants of the prophets. They have 3000 years long loyalty to the Blessed Moses. They are the sons of the Prophet Abraham, I mean it is evident that we will protect and safeguard them, even a child could understand that. But this cruelty is very bad for them as well. When a person causes a child to be a martyr, that person would stay in the Hell for eternity. I mean that gets them under a heavy consequence. We are protecting them from sin. Or else may Israel survive until the Doomsday. Let them be in abundance and plenty, let them be in peace. Let them be in security, we would put our own lives at risk to protect and look out for them. There is no such thing. That is why I have regarded this topic important, I of course feel responsible as far as my conscience is concerned. That was the point I wanted to state.
Oct 21, 2009
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