TALK RADIO: Good evening to Mr. Oktar and Oktar’s translator. Welcome to Talk Radio Europe in Spain.
ADNAN OKTAR: And welcome to you.
TALK RADIO: OK, thank you very much. It is an honor to have you on the line. Mr. Oktar let me ask you; we have looked at a number of your books, researched quite a bit into what you have been doing. You have several subjects that I would like to talk to you about tonight. The first one of which is your view that all faiths of the three main faiths of Judaism, Christianity and Muslim faiths should all live together in peace as one?
ADNAN OKTAR: Of course. Jews must be free and live within their own faith, and Christians in their faith and Muslims within their own faith, all as friends and brothers.
TALK RADIO: OK. Now one of the problems that we have in the West is that we have fundamentalist, young fundamentalist radical Muslims preaching hatred of the West in colleges, in universities and on the streets . This leaves us very suspicious of the motives of the Muslim faith. What do you have to say to that?
ADNAN OKTAR: The Islamic belief they espouse is not a correct and honest one. Almighty Allah tells us even to forgive murder in the Qur’an. The Qur’an is based on love and affection. Paradise and the Hereafter is again an abode of love and affection. There can be only love, affection and compassion in the dwelling place of Muslims. Hatred and anger are a sin for Muslims.
TALK RADIO: Only love. So the Qur’an preaches to love everybody and forgiveness of everybody? So if that is the case Mr. Oktar, why do these young fundamentalists distort the truth?
ADNAN OKTAR: Their numbers are declining all the time. Under the direction of freemasonry they tried to develop a repressive conception of Islam, but failed. They are now rapidly falling apart. The true conception of Islam is based on love, affection and compassion, and the moral values espoused by our Prophet (saas) have begun to prevail across the world. Freemasonry inevitably lies behind anyone who inflicts cruelty in the name of religion.
TALK RADIO: So you believe that the freemasons are behind everything?
ADNAN OKTAR: Yes, that is how it has been for thousands of years.
TALK RADIO: Can you give me... I am trying to think of the best way to put this. Can you give me an example of why you believe the freemasons are responsible for young Muslims in the West, preaching hatred?
ADNAN OKTAR: Because when the Islamic belief is based on hatred and rage, the disappearance of Islam from the world would be very easy for them. Because an Islam based on love, affection and compassion will rule the world. But a conception of Islam based on hatred and rage will obviously be defeated. And freemasonry is doing all in its power to encourage and protect such a cruel conception in order to defeat Islam.
TALK RADIO: OK. Mr. Oktar, we had very very bad problems with the telephone line here. And not everything is coming across quite clearly. Can I try to just ask you a couple of very quick direct questions? One; I believe that Mr. Oktar believes that we are now living in the End Times. Are we living in the End Times?
ADNAN OKTAR: Yes.
TALK RADIO: And how long before the coming of Prophet Jesus and the coming of the Islamic Prophet?
ADNAN OKTAR: 10-20 years. Hazrat Mahdi (as) has already come.
TALK RADIO: 10-20 years. And at the end of the period what will happen on Earth?
ADNAN OKTAR: There will be no more major war after this. There will be an age of happiness, a golden age, for the next 70-80 years. After that, mankind will begin to degenerate. Doomsday can be expected around 2120, insha’Allah.
TALK RADIO: You said he has come already?
ADNAN OKTAR: Yes, Hazrat Mahdi (as) is already here.
TALK RADIO: How do we know him? Who is he?
ADNAN OKTAR: We have not seen who Hazrat Mahdi (as) is. But I know he is here, because all the omens of his coming have come about. There are 150 portents and they have all happened. The stopping of the waters of the Euphrates.
TALK RADIO: The signs have happened.
OKTAR BABUNA: Yes.
ADNAN OKTAR: Is he asking about these?
TALK RADIO: So you are saying he is here?
ADNAN OKTAR: The sighting of comets, for instance. The coming of a double-tailed comet, yes, you can describe these directly.
TALK RADIO: OK. And in 10 to 20 years we will have the Prophet Jesus (as) as well. And the Prophet Jesus (as) will appear within the next 10 to 20 years.
ADNAN OKTAR: Yes, we expect him around 2021, insha’Allah.
TALK RADIO: OK. Is Mr. Oktar familiar with the city of a new spiritual world beginning in 2012 , at the end of 2012?
ADNAN OKTAR: The economic crisis will begin to die down around 2014. The economic crisis will begin to resolve around 2014. But there will be a growth of faith in Islam and religious beliefs among Christians and Jews. And there will be a radical collapse of materialism and Darwinism.
TALK RADIO: And from 2014?
ADNAN OKTAR: Yes, 2014. The IMF agrees that what I am saying is right. They have also begun saying the economic crisis will cease in 2014. These are official statements and metaphysical knowledge.
TALK RADIO: Can you tell me please where Mr. Oktar, Adnan Oktar, sees the united Turkey and what role Turkey will play in the future?
ADNAN OKTAR: Turkey will be the leader of the Turkish-Islamic Union, the leader of the Turkic world and of the Islamic world, in other words. Armenia, Russia and Israel will also be in the union.
TALK RADIO: Now over the last 2 years, Mr. Adnan has been responsible for a number of internet web sites being censored or closed by the Turkish government. Mr. Adnan himself believes in freedom of speech. Why is he protesting against other people’s ability to speak freely?
ADNAN OKTAR: Simply on the basis of defamation. They were closed down because they were full of insults, not because of their ideas.
TALK RADIO: Offensive comments about Mr. Oktar?
ADNAN OKTAR: Yes.
TALK RADIO: I have another question if that is OK. Mr. Oktar does not believe in Darwin’s theory of evolution. Can he briefly say what he does believe and why he does not believe in Darwin, and why he thinks that everything that Darwin stands for is responsible for the evil in the world?
ADNAN OKTAR: Darwinism is an idea of which communist and fascist ideologies are based. It established the ideologies of World Wars I and II. It represents the origin of Marxism and of fascism. It is the bloodiest pagan religion there has ever been. No other pagan religion has ever caused so much bloodshed or wreaked such disasters. It has nothing to do with science whatsoever. There is not a single piece of scientific evidence for Darwin’s theory. It is a totally nonsensical and heretical ideology left over from the ancient Sumerians, from ancient Greek faiths and the ancient Egyptians. It is a pagan religion.
TALK RADIO: I’m going to ask you one final question. If you have a message to give to the listeners in Spain here this evening, for the future, what would that message be?
ADNAN OKTAR: I love all the Spanish people. They are all my brothers. In the near future, the whole world will be brothers, insha’Allah. An age of peace is coming, an age of happiness is coming. They must learn all about Islam. They must be very tolerant of other faiths. Our brothers must also treat Jews and Christians with love. Because they are the People of the Book. They are the people described as the People of the Book in the Qur’an. They are people whom Muslims must protect and show mercy. They must oppose enmity and hatred and espouse the moral values of the Qur’an with scientific and rational methods.
TALK RADIO: OK, gentlemen; I thank you for joining me tonight. My apologies for the phone line. It was lovely to speak to you. And I thank you for message of peace. It is a very important message that everybody in the world must listen to.
ADNAN OKTAR: Thank you. They can obtain all kinds of information about me and other details from the www.harunyahya.com web site. They can download books free of charge.
TALK RADIO: OK. I will give out again the web site, once we have finished this conversation. Ok I thank you again and good night. Have a good night.
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